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With
the aid of two government agents, Stuart (John
Carrol Lynch), Mark (Jon Tenney), and a lovely
assistant, Maya (Sheetal Sheth), Brooks starts
the interviewing process, as soon as he lands
in India, asking everyone, "What makes you
laugh?" Since people aren't as forthcoming
as he would like, and when he discovers there
are no comedy clubs in India or Pakistan that
would help him observe, he decides to put on The
Big Show, the first comedy concert in New Delhi.
He figures that by what the audience laughs at,
he'll get what he needs for his important government
assignment. He figured wrong. Undaunted, Brooks
continues his quest, doing everything from a clandestine
meeting with a group of Pakistani comedians, to
a business meeting with Al Jezeera, all in the
hopes of achieving his goal.
'Looking
for Comedy in the Muslim World' provides an inspired and comedic
view of America's approach towards other cultures. Written, directed
by and starring Albert Brooks, the comedy also stars John Carroll
Lynch, Sheetal Sheth, Jon Tenney, and Fred Dalton Thompson.
INTERVIEW
WITH ALBERT BROOKS
How
did you get the idea for the film, was there something specific
that inspired you?
The
world really changed after 9/11, not just in the tragic way but
in every way. So it took me a couple of years to even understand
how in my art form I could process any of this. My job, what I do
for a living, is to try to elicit laughter. And when the world changed,
eliciting laughter with subjects that were funny to me before 9/11
just didn't seem good enough. I thought why do I want to take a
year out of my life and make a funny movie about dogs? I'm not thinking
about dogs anymore. Now I'm not saying that once I've made this
movie I can't go on and do another subject. I will. But I just thought
this was the 700-lb. gorilla sitting in my comedy office saying,
'deal with this, find a way.'
Well,
it's not a funny subject.
No,
it isn't. But let me tell you something-and this is really the most
important thing-when the time comes where there literally is no
ability to extract laughs from a subject, it's really the end of
the world. I mean, people with horrible diseases make jokes till
the end. It's like it's the armor against being completely eaten
and gone from the planet. But if the movie can get a bunch of people
in a darkened room laughing for an hour and a half - people who
in real life may otherwise never encounter each other - then I feel
I've done a good thing.
Do
you think humor really is a way to get to understand another culture?
I
think if people who hate you can laugh with you at something, that's
the fastest way to have a little understanding. If you really sat
in a room with different kinds of people who normally don't speak
to each other and you all laughed at something, even if it was me
falling on my ass, there's some sort of release of pressure there.
There's some sort of commonality there. And that's one thing I believe
a comedian provides.
So
do you think that comedy can be more effective than the more traditional
approach to international relations?
I
don't think it can be more effective, but why not add it? What I'm
saying is that with all of the other things the United States has
in its arsenal, which are weapons and spying and the CIA, it just
wouldn't be a bad thing to add human contact. Find out what makes
people laugh. Find out what clothes they like. Find out what they
do on a Friday night. All it means is I'm trying to find something
out about you that's not top secret. It can't hurt.
Do
you see your film as an attempt to bridge the cultural gap?
Well,
one of the biggest things in World War II was the Voice of America
and this idea of trying to broadcast the entertainment side, the
non-violent side. I don't believe in this new era of conflict that
the United States has done one-tenth what they should do on the
cultural side. Trying to find out about other people; the idea that
America is interested, that is intriguing.
Do
you think the State Department would do well to have a real program
like the one in the film?
Yes,
I do. Just don't put me in charge. In fact they're starting one.
Bush has asked Karen Hughes to head it up. Basically, it's PR to
the Muslim world. Maybe she'll have a comedy department.
Was
it difficult to get permission to shoot a movie in India?
You
need permission from the government to shoot there. I had to make
one separate trip ahead of time just to do that, to meet with government
officials. I told them the story and I gave them a 45-page outline.
I told them very clearly what happens in the movie, they liked the
story. What they don't like is when films make fun of their traditions
or religions. And of course this one does not do that.
What
kind of response did you get when you were in India, were people
open to what the film was about?
This
was one of the greatest things. This was a huge moment for me personally.
I was in the biggest mosque in India and they never allow any filming
in that mosque. I'm a Jewish man and I don't think there's been
15 Jewish people in that mosque ever. But in order to get permission
I had to talk to the Imam, the man who is head of the mosque. And
I'm just having a private discussion with him and telling him I'm
doing a movie about a character who has come to this part of the
world to find out what makes people laugh. And he started to laugh.
And then he said, 'Okay,' so I felt like a diplomat for two minutes.
So
how close is the character you play to yourself?
Well,
I played Albert Brooks in one other movie in 1979 in REAL LIFE.
I was the first one in my generation to play a character in the
movies who uses his own name. It's done on TV but almost never in
the movies. But it's still a comedy character even though it had
my name. It's like Jack Benny was not a cheap guy and didn't have
a dungeon and I don't think Eddie Anderson worked for him as a houseboy.
Laurel and Hardy really could move a piano if they had to. It's
the same thing with me. I used Albert Brooks because it feels more
real, but it's a comedy creation. And I can movie a piano too, if
I have to.
Does
the character understand anything more about the Muslim world when
he leaves?
Well,
I think the one thing he understands is that it's not easy to find
out what makes people laugh and you probably shouldn't send a comedian
to do it. You should probably send an anthropologist because a comedian's
sense of humor is already formed. He'll have preconceived notions.
Probably the best person to find out what makes people laugh is
a person with no visible sense of humor.
Did
you learn anything about people that might be useful to Americans?
Yes,
I did. There is a preconceived notion of America. We know what it
is. Right or wrong, many people see us as bullies and insensitive.
So when you travel you're acting like mini-ambassadors. If someone
in a foreign country says, "Here is a bowl of soup," don't
go, "Eeww, what is that?!" There's a way to say "No
thank you" without making a face. America will come off better.
How
do you think the film would play in the Muslim world?
Well,
I think that the Muslim world would laugh at this because I am the
person who is-I don't want to use the word 'idiot' but-I'm the buffoon
in the movie. It's not them. It's not countries. It's this guy.
And that's in the grand tradition of comedy. Charlie Chaplin was
the buffoon in Charlie Chaplin movies. W.C. Fields took all the
hits in his movies. The comedian is the one we are making fun of;
no one else.
How
do you want people to feel coming out of the film?
I
don't have any overall philosophical idea of what they should feel.
I would like them to think they've seen a great comedy. And if it
provides discussion, that would be cool. Maybe this movie will lead
to a Muslim comedy night at the Improv.
Would
you like the film to play in India or for a Muslim audience?
Oh,
I'd love it. That would be the greatest thing. What I'm trying to
show is America making fun of itself. And America needs to kick
itself in the butt a little bit so these people see that we're human,
that we're not this giant robot that's going to kill them, because
many people perceive us that way. If an Indian audience or a Muslim
audience could laugh because we're making fun of ourselves a little
bit it certainly couldn't hurt.
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